Deeply provocative 🧐 and titillating for my statistically curious heart and mind. Thank you.
I listened to a recent Star talk podcast in which NDT interviewed a woman who is a philosopher of physics, two nominals that are usually exclusive.
Your poem cultivated thoughts with in me like, what if ‘within’ and ‘between’ are different states but not exclusive? Thoughts like ‘what if’ and ‘this is’ might be time trojected (1) dependant and ‘I see’ (0) might be space (positionality/bias) dependent. In this way space does not just become a measurable distance but a potential for connection through resonance. Harmony?
I'm truly delighted that you like this poem. It's a work I feel very deeply, and which gave me enormous joy in the creation. I really did not know where I was going until after I started.
I have (way back) studied Philosophy - including some of the Philosophy of Science - and I have enormous respect for the Ancient Greek Philosophers. The idea of Aether goes back to Greek mythology - as the substance the Gods breathed - but Aether and Quintessence evolved into ideas - propositions - about the physical nature of the universe. What really does hold it all together?
Pythagoras proposed the music of the spheres - like the harmony you mention - inspired by the mathematical order he could see in the world.
So I was thinking about how ideas like this are an attempt show how, and why, the vastness around us is not just chaos (another wonderful Greek term) but also order and.... connection.
Love (for me) is the ultimate "connection" between people - and I don't find biological/hormonal explanations alone to be convincing. There is a lot more to it than oxytocin. The way that I feel a connection with my wonderful partner, Meg, even at a distance - even to the point of (frequently)calling each other at the same moment, or knowing what they other will say.
And there are so many aspects to connection - and forms of love. It's more of a poetic leap, but Adynaton - data - is now in many ways the medium which connects us all. The online origin of the marriage I wrote this for was proof of that.
And we do - literally - marinate in it. We are all now swimming in an electromagnetic soup of data. Even when not formally receiving it - through phones, computers etc - we are awash with artificially produced electromagnetic waves transmitting an ocean of binary data. There are few places on the world's surface now - if any - where one signal or another does not reach.
So data - Adynaton - is now the Aether which joins us all together....
I love in your comment that you speculate "if ‘within’ and ‘between’ are different states but not exclusive?" For me the answer is a definite "yes!"
Oh my goodness I didn’t expect such a thorough reply, but hello 👋🏼 lovely to meet you.
I will definitely go to my homework and see what percolates for me.
Talking of Love, I’m reading Substacks in an effort, to find myself, all over again.
I find poetry helps me enormously, arrive at that feeling of intra-connection. The words I read arrive perceptively, and a conversation erupts within me, about my interpretation, between my critical sensibilities and my somatic experience of the poem (within).
For me, that conversation is where inspiration begins and creativity might bubble and ideas burst forth and then I’m off creating something that feels beautiful to me. Movement that might deliver insight, expression in time and space.
I wonder if 21st C adynaton transcends time and space or contracts it. Is it expressive, heuristic or both? If the data comes from Love how many marriages, how much music, how much peace can we propagate. If it doesn’t, then it doesn’t.
Aren’t paradoxes grand. Makes me wonder about the within and between of connection and recruitment or Love and influence.
Thankfully the Greeks were not only good at tragedy. 🎭
Dave, I love that you embrace this new thing we do, how we are extending ourselves into new territories of the heart. It seems hard for the collective "us" to embrace change. But we are always evolving, whether or not we want to. There is nothing new under the sun, but everything under the sun is new.
oh beautiful writing Dave , I have been sitting with it just now reading and re reading - a deep immersion fielding lots of neurons sparking into all sorts of inquiry and wonderings - how strange I think aether and quintessence have recently hopped into my poems - the other two are new to me and yes we are all a-swimming in an ocean of data connecting across worlds stretching into people and place from my chair beside the fire. it truly is miraculous and scary a voyage into the unknown... love from any age is love , cheers
I vividly remember you writing this before their wedding! You seemed to plug into a power socket from another dimension and the words flowed!
I took 100hours doing a portrait of the couple. Best collaboration!
My mother used to always say, “Meggy if you think you’ve found an original idea :::: go back and read how the Ancient Greeks did it.” So true.
This why I would suck at art....
(Along with the fact that I have zero artistic ability!)
xxx
D :)
Jack in the pulpit I call the fern opening fronds to the world. Love of life to increase oxytocin in one form or another. Love the exploration.
Deeply provocative 🧐 and titillating for my statistically curious heart and mind. Thank you.
I listened to a recent Star talk podcast in which NDT interviewed a woman who is a philosopher of physics, two nominals that are usually exclusive.
Your poem cultivated thoughts with in me like, what if ‘within’ and ‘between’ are different states but not exclusive? Thoughts like ‘what if’ and ‘this is’ might be time trojected (1) dependant and ‘I see’ (0) might be space (positionality/bias) dependent. In this way space does not just become a measurable distance but a potential for connection through resonance. Harmony?
O my I think you’ve stared a fire in my wonder. 💭
Hi Lois
I'm truly delighted that you like this poem. It's a work I feel very deeply, and which gave me enormous joy in the creation. I really did not know where I was going until after I started.
I have (way back) studied Philosophy - including some of the Philosophy of Science - and I have enormous respect for the Ancient Greek Philosophers. The idea of Aether goes back to Greek mythology - as the substance the Gods breathed - but Aether and Quintessence evolved into ideas - propositions - about the physical nature of the universe. What really does hold it all together?
Pythagoras proposed the music of the spheres - like the harmony you mention - inspired by the mathematical order he could see in the world.
So I was thinking about how ideas like this are an attempt show how, and why, the vastness around us is not just chaos (another wonderful Greek term) but also order and.... connection.
Love (for me) is the ultimate "connection" between people - and I don't find biological/hormonal explanations alone to be convincing. There is a lot more to it than oxytocin. The way that I feel a connection with my wonderful partner, Meg, even at a distance - even to the point of (frequently)calling each other at the same moment, or knowing what they other will say.
And there are so many aspects to connection - and forms of love. It's more of a poetic leap, but Adynaton - data - is now in many ways the medium which connects us all. The online origin of the marriage I wrote this for was proof of that.
And we do - literally - marinate in it. We are all now swimming in an electromagnetic soup of data. Even when not formally receiving it - through phones, computers etc - we are awash with artificially produced electromagnetic waves transmitting an ocean of binary data. There are few places on the world's surface now - if any - where one signal or another does not reach.
So data - Adynaton - is now the Aether which joins us all together....
I love in your comment that you speculate "if ‘within’ and ‘between’ are different states but not exclusive?" For me the answer is a definite "yes!"
I do tend towards the metaphysical at times, so if you like this one you may also like my "Cosmology." https://davidkirkby.substack.com/p/cosmology
And for a metaphysical evocation of love, my poem "Euclidean": https://davidkirkby.substack.com/p/euclidean
Best Wishes - Dave
Very Best Wishes - Dave :)
Oh my goodness I didn’t expect such a thorough reply, but hello 👋🏼 lovely to meet you.
I will definitely go to my homework and see what percolates for me.
Talking of Love, I’m reading Substacks in an effort, to find myself, all over again.
I find poetry helps me enormously, arrive at that feeling of intra-connection. The words I read arrive perceptively, and a conversation erupts within me, about my interpretation, between my critical sensibilities and my somatic experience of the poem (within).
For me, that conversation is where inspiration begins and creativity might bubble and ideas burst forth and then I’m off creating something that feels beautiful to me. Movement that might deliver insight, expression in time and space.
I wonder if 21st C adynaton transcends time and space or contracts it. Is it expressive, heuristic or both? If the data comes from Love how many marriages, how much music, how much peace can we propagate. If it doesn’t, then it doesn’t.
Aren’t paradoxes grand. Makes me wonder about the within and between of connection and recruitment or Love and influence.
Thankfully the Greeks were not only good at tragedy. 🎭
Dave, I love that you embrace this new thing we do, how we are extending ourselves into new territories of the heart. It seems hard for the collective "us" to embrace change. But we are always evolving, whether or not we want to. There is nothing new under the sun, but everything under the sun is new.
Thankyou my friend :)
Hey Dave,
WoW, what can one say. There are certain appreciations in which we must let our beings entire marinate.
Lots of love,
Mahdi
Thankyou dear Mahdi.
Best Wishes from across the world - Dave :)
What a beautiful way to honor the couple, Dave ❤️❤️❤️
Thankyou my friend :)
So many Greek words here! This little Greek can’t help feeling elated :)
Efcharistó, dear Nikos!
My poem is just a small acknowledgement of the huge debt western civilisation owes to Greece.
Best wishes
Dave :)
oh beautiful writing Dave , I have been sitting with it just now reading and re reading - a deep immersion fielding lots of neurons sparking into all sorts of inquiry and wonderings - how strange I think aether and quintessence have recently hopped into my poems - the other two are new to me and yes we are all a-swimming in an ocean of data connecting across worlds stretching into people and place from my chair beside the fire. it truly is miraculous and scary a voyage into the unknown... love from any age is love , cheers